Ep. 340: When Life Gets Lifey with Guest Spencer T

In this guest episode, Spencer T shares his recovery story and the tools that have helped him stay grounded when life gets hard. He talks about learning the Three C’s, practicing loving detachment, and using acceptance and gratitude to meet reality as it is, even in seasons of grief and big family transitions.

You’ll hear how Al Anon principles helped Spencer respond to moments that could have pulled him into fear, control, and over functioning, including a mental health crisis with his son, and later, walking with his parents through dementia and end of life care.

This is a conversation about recovery as a daily practice, and about building a life where you’re more present, more flexible, and less alone.

What we cover

Spencer’s path into Al Anon

Spencer shares three “qualifications” that brought him to Al Anon: family patterns he didn’t fully understand until later, his marriage to a woman in recovery, and his own lifelong tendency to help, fix, and control.

The turning point: the Three C’s

At a friends and family program, Spencer hears the Three C’s in a new way
You didn’t Cause it
You can’t Control it
You can’t Cure it

He describes the relief that came from letting go of responsibility for someone else’s alcoholism and the immediate follow up question that changed everything
“If I can’t fix her, what can I do for me?”

“I was no longer alone”

Spencer talks about going to his first Al Anon meeting and realizing the biggest shift wasn’t information, it was connection. The isolation lifted when he sat in a room with people who understood.

Recovery as spiritual exercise

He compares recovery to going to the gym
you don’t go once or twice and say you’ve got it
you keep practicing
you keep showing up
you build the muscle over time

Life gets lifey, even after sobriety

Spencer explains why he’s still in Al Anon even though his wife has been sober for many years. He talks about practicing the principles in all his affairs, and how the tools he learned for alcoholism helped him in parenting, grief, relationships, and everyday stress.

Supporting instead of fixing

Spencer shares a powerful story about getting a call that his college age son had been placed in a psychiatric hospital far from home. He describes the difference between showing up to support versus trying to manage the outcome.

He names a definition of enabling that helped him stay clear
doing for someone what they can do for themselves
or protecting them from the consequences of their actions

Loving detachment in real life

He tells another story about his son choosing to camp through a Connecticut winter while in graduate school. Spencer describes how hard it was to let him learn the lesson his own way, and how recovery helped him stay loving without getting pulled into control.

Acceptance as a lived practice

Spencer gives a simple definition of acceptance
recognizing that what is, is

He uses the weather as an example, because it makes the principle obvious
you can’t change it
you can prepare for it
you can meet it with reality instead of resistance

Dementia, grief, and preparing the heart

Spencer shares how his parents’ dementia required him to re practice everything he learned about living with alcoholism
the repetition
the confusion
the activation it brought up in him

He talks about preparing himself before visits, including listening to material on radical acceptance and leaning on program friends. He shares a memorable moment at a restaurant with his mother that helped him see her through others’ eyes and soften his own grief.

Grief without a schedule

Spencer references the Al Anon book Opening Our Hearts, Transforming Our Losses and reflects on how grief doesn’t follow rules or timelines. He shares a tender truth many people need permission to hear
sometimes the grief happens slowly, long before the person dies

“First things first”

Spencer shares a regret about not getting to his father in time, and how it changed the way he responded when his mother began declining. The second time, he dropped everything and went, and he was there for her last words.

Gratitude in the middle of the worst day

Spencer tells the story of losing a beloved dog after a sudden injury. He names what he could still be grateful for
they were home
their son could come be with them
a pet ambulance existed
the vet was gentle and gave them time
they got to be there at the end

He describes how recovery taught him to ask
“What was good about today?”
even on a terrible day

A powerful reframe on “attitude”

Spencer ends with a definition he learned that made the idea of “changing your attitude” finally make sense
Attitude, in aviation, is angle of approach
meaning perspective
meaning you can change how you’re looking at something, and that changes everything

Quotes to pull

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“I didn’t cause it, I can’t control it, and I can’t cure it. And I felt lighter. Then I thought, yeah, but I’m still miserable. What can I do for me?”
“At the end of that hour, the thing I knew was, I was no longer alone.”
“Acceptance is realizing that what is, is.”
“The slogans are like pocket change. I can reach in and pull one out when I need it.”
“Grief doesn’t have a schedule.”
“There’s always something to be grateful for.”
“Attitude is angle of approach. That’s perspective.”

Mentioned in this episode

Spencer’s podcast: The Recovery Show
Al Anon literature: Opening Our Hearts, Transforming Our Losses

About this guest

Spencer T is a grateful member of the Worldwide Fellowship of Al Anon and Alateen and the host of The Recovery Show. He shares practical recovery tools and honest reflections on how program principles apply not only to alcoholism, but to parenting, grief, relationships, and everyday life.

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