Episode 110: Guest Episode – Codependency with Gail


Gail Ferguson Jones is a recovering codependent and host of the podcast “The Buttrfly Effect” (no “e”), which is for families of addicts. She shares her experience having grown up with multiple generations of alcoholism and being married to an alcoholic. 

Gail dropped all kinds of pearls of wisdom on this show. Here are just a few gems.

  • “This is why [codependence is] also called co-addiction. Even though I didn’t have a drinking problem, I was sharing in all the chaos and dysfunction that went with it.”
  • “The pain is always the thing that makes us rethink…pain is a good thing, because otherwise I wouldn’t have changed.”
  • “HE wasn’t making me lose myself, I surrendered MY OWN power. It took a few years and a diagnosis of PTSD, that turned things around for me.”
  • “When we prioritize [their drinking and behavior], it’s because we’re concerned with what other people are going to think if I abandon him now…or ‘she has this great life, what’s the matter with her?'”

Here’s a link to Gail’s podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/buttrfly-effect-podcast/id1518404338

What is Fragmented to Whole: Life Lessons from 12 Step Recovery?

This is the podcast “Fragmented to Whole: Life Lessons from 12 Step Recovery.” It will help people who want to heal to move from fragmented to whole.

Hi, I’m Barb! I share my experience, strength and hope from 12 step recovery in each episode. They’re all 20 minutes or less. Unlike most recovery podcasts where you hear a person’s whole story, in this one each episode is about a specific topic.

There are many life lessons from 12 step recovery that are applicable to those in and outside of recovery. This podcast brings some of those lessons to the airwaves, including such topics as learning acceptance, recognizing and overcoming victim mentality and establishing healthy boundaries.

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